Past, Present and Future are happening simultaneously

This post on Boing Boing is about a man who, in 1927, came up with the idea described in the subject heading of this post of mine. This is an idea that I’ve had for a little while now. I’ll dig up some documentation some time in the future, but for now you’ll have to take my word for it.

I haven’t read the article that Boing Boing has linked to yet, but I wanted to post about it here now and summarize my own thoughts.

  1. Time is a dimension like length, width and height. I think my idea comes from someone else’s idea, but here’s what I think: If we were born some impossible height way up in the sky, and we spent our whole lives falling (and never landing) we would never question the continuous downward movement of our bodies. This is what time is like. We are continually falling forward through time, and there’s no reason we can move side to side, or even backwards, or more quickly forwards, we just don’t have the technology for it.
  2. Everything in the past is frozen there. It continues to exist, and can’t be altered. So why do we think the future has yet to exist, and is still available to change? I like Vonnegut’s idea in Timequake where people suddenly find themselves several years in the past, but because there’s only one possible course of events they’re forced to relive those years all over again, do the same things, think the same thoughts, feel the same feelings. They’re reliving the past, without even really knowing it. Or do we?
  3. I have dreams that feel like they might be from the future. I also have deja vu, and I’ve had severe deja vu moments where I feel very certain that I know what’s going to happen next. This feeling persists for some time and there’s usually a sense of panic that washes over me. I’ve begun documenting these moments, but haven’t noticed a pattern yet. I always intend to write down my dreams, but usually put it off too long. Sometimes I’ll find myself in a moment and I feel a mild sense of deja vu, but it won’t just be deja vu, it will feel like a memory of a dream and I will feel certain that I had dreamt the moment, but without documentation it’s impossible for me to confirm it. How convenient.
Anyway, I’m looking forward to reading that article, and the essay that it’s about. Maybe I’ll come back to this entry and edit it with an update.
Published in: on September 13, 2011 at 7:49 pm  Leave a Comment  
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Next Meeting: May 14 @ Victory Cafe

Each month Interested in The Future group members meet to discuss the future, make predictions and read predictions that were made in the past. All are welcome. Come early and stay till the end, or come and go as you please.


The Victory Cafe
581 Markham St. Toronto
We have the front room reserved. Enter the front doors and turn left.

The Agenda:

6:30 Dinner
7:00 Opening Committee
8:00 General Meeting
(details below)

6:30 Dinner

If you’d like to have dinner as a group please arrive at 6:30pm. This will be an open discussion period where we may talk about the past.

7:00 Opening Committee

Opening predictions can be a touch tedious when the envelope is particularly stuffed. The “Opening Committee” consists of anyone who happens to be present when we open the envelope. We will read the predictions and determine whether they were accurate or not, or if they require verification. The Opening Committee will attempt to verify as many predictions as possible and we will organize them so that anyone who joins the meeting late can easily take a look at them

8:00 General Meeting

  1. Introductions: Who are you and why are you interested in The Future?
  2. Review of accurate predictions
  3. General discussion of topics we might make predictions about
  4. Submission of predictions to be opened in 6 months, 1 year and 5 years
Published in: on May 13, 2010 at 4:02 pm  Leave a Comment  

Martian Greens

Futuristic Greenhouse Domes might be the only way to grow food on Mars

There’s a story on New Scientist about the feasibility of growing plants in space and on Mars. The conclusion is that while some organisms can survive space travel (even in the vacuum of space!) they will not survive the harsh UV rays of the Sun that fall on the red planet. Plus, the dirt on Mars probably doesn’t have the organic material that would be friendly to growing plants.

All of this means that if we’re going to send humans to Mars we’re going to have to bring some potting soil with us, and some classically-styled UV shielding greenhouse domes. I’m okay with that. But there’s still the ethical question of potentially destroying life that may already exist there.

I hate to be the one to say it but, if there are microorganisms alive on Mars… uh, does that matter? Yes, yes, it matters, I know, and there are a lot of people who would be really, really excited about studying the bacteria or whatever may be over there, but we might have already contaminated Mars with Earthling organisms, so…


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Next Meeting: April 21 @ The Victory Cafe

Welcome to the April meeting of Interested in The Future!

It’s as straight forward as ever, but it’s been a while since we’ve had a meeting, so there will be a lot of predictions to be read.

Here’s the Agenda for the evening:

6:30pm Dinner

The dinner portion of the meeting will be an opportunity to discuss the future of the future meetings. There have been some new ideas about the format and structure of the meetings that we feel are worth discussing. If you would like to be involved in the discussion, please arrive at 6:30

8:00 pm General Meeting

  1. Introductions: Who are you and why are you Interested in The Future
  2. The Reading of Predictions
  3. Discussion of Topics About Which We May Make Predictions
  4. The Submission of Predictions to be Read in The Future

The way a typical meeting goes is we order food and drink and talk like normal humans do, but with The Future as a central point in our conversations. It’s fun!

Bring your friends!

I’ve reserved the front room of the Victory Cafe for us from 6:30 onward, so let’s have dinner, then wait until 8 or so before opening any predictions.

Date: Wednesday, April 21st
Time: Dinner from 6:30 Drinks from 8:00pm
Where: The Victory Cafe
Address: 581 Markham St, Mirvish Village

Please find us on facebook to RSVP, or vote in the poll below.

Published in: on April 20, 2010 at 4:56 pm  Leave a Comment  

Vocalizing Robots – Creepy

This is your new Robotic Vocalizer

How efficient is human speech? It seems to work well for us, because we need to breathe anyway, so we might as well use our exhalation to make sounds to communicate.

But for Robots?

Robots don’t use respiration in the functioning of their body, so what is the point of making Robots that use air to vocalize?

The point isn’t entirely to creep us out. Once this kind of thing is perfected it could be used to augment or replace damaged humans who are no longer able to use their own bodies to make intelligible sounds.

The Waseda Talker is one project with the goal of refining Robotic speech, but if you watch the videos at the end of the page they really haven’t managed to produce anything but moaning sounds (which, depending on the purpose of the Robot, might work out just fine)

I guess the ultimate goal of these project is to develop a ‘more natural’ kind of speech for Androids. So far the results haven’t been too convincing though. Human speech is so complex that there aren’t really any other animals that can do it. Walking, grasping, climbing, running, seeing, these are all things humans and animals are able to do quite easily and replicating that behavior in Robots has been challenging, but not impossible. Only humans can speak with any subtlety and I predict it will be decades before we can get Robots to replicate that.

As I said earlier though, Robots don’t need to pass air in and out of their bodies the way humans do, so perhaps this is the wrong approach to developing mechanical vocalization.

Oh, I just had a thought. Robots do need to circulate air, as a way of cooling their machinery and computers. Interesting.

A couple of questions I expect Science Fiction authors to contemplate from now on:

  1. What will the Robot accent sound like? It won’t be the stereotypical “Heh-low I am a Ro-Bot” if this method of generating speech is generated, but it also won’t be the same as any human accent.
  2. What does robot breath smell like? Will it be like the air coming out of your computer? Will it smell of lubricant and dust?

I’ve included a couple of videos of creepy Robot vocalization prototypes after the cut.


Published in: on April 19, 2010 at 2:20 pm  Leave a Comment  

We need to talk… about The Future

We haven’t had a meeting in a while, and I think it’s about time we did.

When would be a good date in the month of April? Please vote for EACH evening that you are NOT available to attend a Future Meeting. I’ll try to schedule the meeting for a conflict-free date!

Published in: on April 9, 2010 at 2:33 pm  Leave a Comment  

Notes from the Future – 02/18/10 – The Future of Reading

All the tablet is going to be I believe is access to the web. Can you tie some new business models to it? Maybe, but then you’ve got to count upon millions upon millions upon millions of people using that device. The issue with the tablet, the reason that I think there’s so much desire for it, is that it is the last effort, the last hope that old media properties think that they have that there’s something that will return control to them.

itwire – NASA Boss says: Let’s go to Mars

According to the Houston Chronicle newspaper, Bolden thinks that the United States can land U.S. astronauts on Mars and return them safely back to Earth sometime in the 2030s, possibly even by the early part of that decade.

Willamette Week – David Levine just got back from Mars

Portland science fiction writer David Levine has never been to Mars. However he was recently in Utah – which can sometimes feel as foreign as Mars. What was he doing in Utah? Living on a simulated Mars habitat of course. For two weeks last month David spent his days collecting Mars rocks and eating re-hydrated food at the Mars Desert Research Station – all for the sake of promoting space and future space travel. We spoke with him recently about his trip

more about the same project.

Published in: on March 1, 2010 at 9:29 pm  Leave a Comment  

Future Meeting February 12.

The next Future Meeting will take place Friday, February 12th at 8pm at the Monarch Tavern (12 Clinton St, Toronto)

The Agenda is as follows:

  • Who are you and why are you interested in The Future
  • Opening of Earlier Predictions
  • Topics about which we may predict the future
  • Submission of new predictions to be opened in 6 months, and in 5 years.

Please indicate your intention to attend using the above poll. Thanks!

Published in: on February 7, 2010 at 4:02 pm  Leave a Comment  

People will start memorizing passages of books for fear that books will eventually become obsolete due to e-books (Fahrenheit 451 reference)


e-book use has declined since this prediction was made and nobody memorizes anything anymore. not even phone numbers.

Prediction was to be opened in December, 2014, however it was not opened and verified until January 21, 2017.

Published in: on December 30, 2009 at 12:59 pm  Leave a Comment  
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Year End Meeting this Wednesday

It’s been a big year, with a lot of big historic things taking place, but we at Interested in The Future are not interested in the past, so let’s get together one last time in 2009 and talk about next year.

This meeting will follow a similar format to every other Future Meeting we’ve had this year but with a few more prediction making options.

We’ll start with the standard introductions, followed by a short discussion of topics we might want to predict the future about, then we’ll write some predictions. Finally we’ll open and read / verify some old predictions.

The standard time frame we’ve been using for predictions has been 6 months, but given that this is our first anniversary, and the end of the year we will have a separate envelope for predictions to be opened in one year’s time. We may even have an envelope for 5 year predictions. How does that sound?

Date: Wednesday, December 30th, 2009
Time: 8:00pm
Place: The Crown and Tiger 414 College St. at Lippincott
Published in: on December 28, 2009 at 1:17 pm  Leave a Comment